Firewiz
Sep 13 2004, 02:35 PM
Im not much for a conspiracy theory, but this make you go hmmmmmmm....
http://www.elchulo.net/files/pentagon.swf
optomos
Sep 13 2004, 03:40 PM
This is a new one. Prior to this they said it was trucks loaded with explosives also. Alot of things have been said but it doesnt surprise me that the Gov would keep things quite & not show video or pictures in or near the building; it is the pentagon...
DutchKid
Sep 13 2004, 07:36 PM
Still there are lots of things that don't add up. Especialy with the pentagon. I've got a avi about all this stuff. Got it from a friend of mine. It's about 52 mins. Haven't seen it yet, but I will soon.
Firewiz
Sep 13 2004, 08:59 PM
artzelda
Sep 13 2004, 09:48 PM
What a bunch of crap. Another conspiracy theory. Mel Gibson where are you?
ToSS
Sep 14 2004, 06:18 PM
http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pentagon.htmSnopes has a good article on this, too. i found it quite an interesting read.
TWINE006
Sep 15 2004, 05:25 AM
Bah... who knows. It could've been anything and everything. It was probably a plane, but the conspiracy theory is pretty believeable (or at least before you read some of the opposition towards it). The fact that the government showed up and took everything having to do with it almost immediately after the event happened doesn't shed much light on the situation. I'm sure the Gestappo will release the materials in 60-something years (or whenever stuff becomes declassified) and then we'll know the truth (and not care since it will be irrelavent to us).
Voidrunner
Sep 23 2004, 08:59 PM
That movie is full of so much crap it's just amazing. The small hole in one of the inner walls of the Pentagon that they claim was caused by a cruise missile (HAH!) was caused by one of the engines that detached from the plane and smashed through a number of walls. The reason why you don't see hardly any debris from outside the Pentagon, is because the damn plane SLAMMED into the building at something approaching 500 miles an hour! The vast majority of it ended up inside the building, burst into flames cause of all the fuel and then the building collapsed on top of it.
There's another rather simple reason for why not much debris was recovered.
Firewiz, you as a firefighter should be able to verify this as well.
Aluminum, which is what those types of planes are from for the most part, burns quite well once it reaches a high enough temperature. Jetfuel under those conditions can most certainly produce enough heat to set aluminum on fire. Look at the WTC towers.Their steel structure weakened and buckled from the heat of the burning fuel. Aluminum burns at a much lower temperature than that. And if it doesn't burn, then it melts.
So, no goddamn cruisemissile, or two-engine small jet crashed into the Pentagon. The explosions are all wrong for it for one thing. A cruisemissile would have made a much different explosion with less fire and quite possibly more damage. Cruisemissiles don't blow up in the real world like they do in the movies.
Same thing if it had been a small jet loaded with explosives.
And finally, if it wasn't a 757 that crashed into the Pentagon, then where exactly is the 757 and all it's passengers then? Where did they go?
Frankly, I think that these kinds of inane conspiracy theories, these videos and the book they're based on, are a grave and unforgivable INSULT to each and every person who died on those planes and in the Pentagon and the WTC Towers.
It's an insult to the soldiers that are fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan and other places right now. It's an insult to our intelligence.
Can you tell I don't care for them much?